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Post  Admin on Sat 28 Nov 2015, 9:05 pm

Recep Tayyip Erdogan Farewell Time: Turkey is ‘Problem Child’ NATO Needs to Ditch
Topic: Russian Su-24 Jet Downed Over Syria (164)
With the changing times and different threats the international community is currently facing, Turkey should be removed from NATO, the US magazine American Thinker said.

Turkey's admission into NATO in 1952 had a clear military purpose — the country's membership was supposed to help the Western alliance to avoid Soviet expansion in the region. From the Western point of view, it might have been the right decision to make during the Cold War era.

However, right now NATO doesn't need Turkey and it's time to ditch Ankara, especially after finding out that the Turkish government has ties with Islamic extremists in the Middle East, the US newspaper said.

"Old adversaries need to be re-evaluated, as do old ‘allies' — which were never likely allies to begin with… The time has come: Turkey should be removed from NATO," the American Thinker reported.
Turkey has always been "the problem child in NATO," the magazine said. The Turkish government has been using its NATO membership as an effective tool to achieve its own political goals, which don't coincide with NATO's interests.
In 1974, Turkey invaded Cyprus, causing a split in NATO, which resulted in Greece withdrawing its forces from the alliance until 1980. Then in 2012, after repeated and deliberate airspace violations the Syrian Air Force shot down a Turkish plane causing NATO unwanted headaches.
According to the American Thinker, Turkey has always had Islamic ties due to its complex history. Under the protection of its NATO membership, Turkey managed to increase its influence in the region to the point that it supported ISIL by carrying out illegal oil sales with the terrorist organization, the US magazine said.
Following the rise of ISIL and a series of terrorist attacks in Europe, the EU and the United States need to defeat ISIL. NATO can't afford to have a country that "pretends to be a friend while stabbing [the West] in the back" and that's why Turkey needs to be dropped from the Western alliance, the American Thinker explained.
Instead, NATO should find a common ground with Russia since both parties are currently involved in the fight against Islamic extremism.
The Russian Su-24 Fencer bomber was shot down by two Turkish F-16s Tuesday morning while conducting operations over Syria.
One of the pilots from the downed Su-24 was rescued by the Syrian Army Tuesday morning. The other pilot was killed by fire from the ground after ejecting from the plane. A Russian naval infantry soldier also lost his life after an Mi-8 chopper was downed during a rescue operation.
The Turkish president said that Ankara acted in line with its sovereign right to respond to threats, claiming that the Russian jet had violated Turkish airspace. However, flight data released by the Russian Ministry of Defense shows that the Su-24s never entered Turkey, and were attacked while performing legitimate maneuvers over Syria.    

Turkey Openly Supports ISIL, Desires to Rebuild Empire’
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Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan has stated that in the event of another airspace violation, Ankara will respond in the same way as it did with the Russian warplane.
He added that the downing of the Russian bomber was an “automatic reaction” in line with a standing order given to country’s military, while the Kremlin’s reaction was “emotional and unfitting of politicians”.
Earlier, on Thursday Russia’s President Vladimir Putin said that there were “certain countries that covered and continue to cover terrorists”.
Putin also stressed that Ankara’s recent actions were completely unexplainable, adding that the Turkish government seems to be deliberately pushing relations between the countries into a deadlock.
Following President Putin’s statement, Russia’s Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev announced that Moscow will respond with diplomatic and military measures over the Su-24 incident. In particular, he noted that Moscow is considering the introduction of bans on the activities of Turkish companies’ in Russia.
Political analyst and Israeli publicist Avigdor Eskin spoke to Sputnik about the incident.
“Turkey today is the only country which supports ISIL openly and if someone questions what I just said let them see what is happening with ISIS. It all goes through Turkey. They sell their oil through Turkey and if Turkey wanted it to stop they would have stopped it. There are volunteers that came to fight for ISIL from different parts of the world. How did they end up in Syria? They all landed in Turkey and went to Syria. Again Turkey could have stopped it.”
Regarding the Russian Su-24 bomber, “The issue is not that maybe the Russian plane went through the Turkish territory for three seconds or so, that is not the issue as first of all we don’t know that they violated by mistake. There was a plan to shoot down Russian plane to show who is in charge and it really reveals some very ill Turkish desires to rebuild their empire. They perceive these territories as their own territories.”
“This is what they want from this war and from Assad’s regime. They want to take over some of these territories. Turkey needs to be stopped and I am sure it will be stopped because other NATO countries are not interested in any confrontation with Russia.”
Talking about the current Turkish government, Eskin said that the problem with Erdogan and his government is that they derive from the Muslim Brotherhood and their ideological core is terrorism and extremism. This organization is outlawed in Russia and in many other countries, even in Egypt.
“When we deal with this ideology we cannot expect anything but more trouble. However, there are some very wise people in Turkey who see the situation differently than their president,” Eskin said.
I hope that Russia gets the support as the international community needs to understand the position of Russia in this case.

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Post  Admin on Fri 20 Nov 2009, 1:55 pm

EU presidency front-runner against Turkey
BRUSSELS (UPI) -- The leading candidate for the first president of European Council says he opposes Turkey's bid to join the European Union because it is an Islamic country.

Belgian Prime Minister Herman Van Rompuy reportedly has the backing of France and Germany for the European Union presidency, expected to be decided during a meeting of the organization's leaders Thursday, EUobserver.com reported. Also to be decided is a new European Union foreign policy position at the meeting in Brussels.

Five years ago, Van Rompuy spoke against Turkey joining the EU, saying it would dilute Europe's Christian values and heritage, The Daily Telegraph reported Thursday.

"Turkey is not a part of Europe and will never be part of Europe," he said in a 2004 speech. "The universal values which are in force in Europe, and which are fundamental values of Christianity, will lose vigor with the entry of a large Islamic country such as Turkey."

His views have earned support from Vlaams Belang, the far-right Flemish anti-immigrant party in Belgium, the British newspaper said.

"We are entirely in agreement with Van Rompuy over this question and are convinced he will defend this point of view as president of the EU," said Vlaams Belang leader Filip Dewinter. "It is for this reason we openly support him."

Belgian officials confirmed to EUobserver the speech was made, but said the comments were spoken when Van Rompuy was in the opposition.

Anticipating that Britain -- which opposes Van Rompuy as an EU presidential candidate and which favors Turkey's admission to the organization -- would jump on his years-old remarks, one official said, "Things that are said in opposition ... are different from what you find yourself saying when in government."

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Survey: Culture shapes Turkey-EU views
ISTANBUL, Turkey (UPI) -- Europeans tend to base their views of Turkey as a member of the European Union not on political or economic but cultural grounds, a survey indicates.

The survey, conducted in five EU countries between June 2008 and this month, was performed by Bogazici University's Center for European Studies, the Dialogue with Europe Association, the Autonomous University of Madrid and the University of Granada. It found cultural differences were the main reason Europeans do or do not favor Turkey's admission to the EU, the Daily Zaman reported Wednesday.

The newspaper said the survey found 40.4 percent saying it was mostly cultural factors that shaped their stance -- negative or positive -- towards the possible membership of Turkey in the EU.

The survey, which was conducted among 5,000 people in France, Germany, Spain, Britain and Poland, found more than half of those who oppose Turkey's membership (51.3 percent) said Turkey should be excluded from the EU because it is a Muslim country, culturally distinct from Europe's Christian background, Daily Zaman said.

The study also found younger Europeans are more supportive of Turkey's entry to the EU than are older generations, Hurriyet Daily News reported.

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